The Real Housewives of New York Season 5 went from dramatic to insane as soon as the women took off on a "girls trip" to St. Barts. Between LuAnn de Lesseps's "cheating" scandal and the big blow up between Aviva Drescher and the unbreakable duo, Ramona Singer and Sonja Morgan, there was so much drama it took three episodes to cover it all.

When Wetpaint Entertainment had a chance to catch up with Sonja at OK! Magazine’s 4th Annual Fashion Week Celebration on September 10, we had to ask her about what went wrong on the infamous trip. As always, Sonja was delightfully candid.

Wetpaint Entertainment: What happened at St. Barts? Why did it spiral so out of control?
Sonja Morgan: Well, let's just say, after 18 episodes, it all comes out in the laundry, doesn't it? When you try to be somebody you're not, and you make up stories, it's kind of hard to cover that for a long time. And you know that Ramona's been on the show for five seasons, and you've yet to catch her in a lie, right? She's just being herself, love her or hate her.

She's always honest.
She's just honest, okay? And other people come on [the show], and they think they're going to fool everyone and be "Oh, I'm the most fabulous. I have the perfect marriage, perfect kids." Well, you know what? Nobody has the perfect anything. And I think that you should not judge other people, and when it resorts to name calling, that's when I have to draw the line. I saw that Aviva was turning on my friend Ramona, and it hurt my feelings.

How are you and Heather [Thomson] doing?
Heather and I turned out to be  well, I liked her from the beginning. And I respected her as a business woman. But mostly I liked her as a friend. And I thought, let's get beyond I know you're a great mother, I know you're a great wife, I know you're a great business woman. But I want to be friends with you. Let's do this project together. I love your brand stamp, help me with mine. Mine needs to be more universal. But then everything got tossed and turned with the group and filming. But we came out okay on the other end. I thought that she handled herself well, and I handled myself well. We had creative differences, but it didn't resort to name calling or personal attacks. So we're really cool. We respect each other.

Is there anything you can tease for the rest of the season?
Just … don't judge a book by it's cover, even if it looks good. Sometimes you open it up, and there's no substance.

The Real Housewives of New York airs Mondays at 9 p.m. ET/PT on Bravo.  

Rebecca Martin is an editor at Wetpaint Entertainment. Follow her on Twitter @BeccaMartin47.

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