Add Monica Spannbauer to the list of people who don’t think Courtney Robertson is “winning” — at least, not as a person. Whether Courtney wins The Bachelor Season 16 remains to be seen. Monica was rooting for Ben Flajnik to pick Kacie Boguskie, but now she thinks he doesn’t deserve her and would only break her heart.
In her exit interview, Monica touched on all those things, in addition to her close friendship with Blakeley Shea (that was interpreted as something more) and the three women in the house she thinks would be the best for Ben.
Here are excerpts from the full Q&A, via Reality TV World.
Could you clear up what actually happened that first night between you and Blakeley? Was it portrayed accurately?
Monica Spannbauer: (Laughs) I knew this one was coming. (Laughs) So you arrive at the house, or the mansion, in a limo with five other ladies or four other ladies — there's five total. And Blakeley, everybody in the limo was, believe it or not, Courtney was in my limo, Anna Snowball was in there, and Blakeley and I just kind of hit it off. They were much younger than me and we were close in age and we just hit it off as friends. She was funny and we laughed, and I mean, when you get out of that limo, you're nervous as can be and I obviously forgot my line. You walk into the lion's den, so I'll call it, and it was kind of nice to have somebody on your arm — like a friend going somewhere with you. And that's what it felt like with Blakeley. I liked her a lot. I think she's a really nice girl. She was very nervous, so as far as did that really happen, yeah. It wasn't under the context of me being bi-sexual or into her— absolutely not. I was kind of telling [someone] this, I was aware of the cameras and aware of anything that was happening around me, but not really aware that they could hear me whispering. (Laughs) I wasn't trying to get her number to be her girlfriend. We're not supposed to talk to each other, so I was kind of trying to break the rules saying, "Look, if all we get out of this — If we go home tonight and all I get is making a new friend, then this is awesome." You know? Who cares. I just wasn't stressed about getting on film. I was just trying to be comforting. It's funny.
So the whole time you knew Courtney while you were on the show, she was nice?
Monica: I never had a problem with her — at all. She said very rotten things to the other girls. I became really close with the other women and they would consult with me or use me as kind of their base. They called me "Momma Bear," which is so funny, because I was always just like consoling them. I don't like the way she treated people, but I personally never had an issue, ever.
What do you think about how Ben has seemed to really fall for Courtney. Based on the way she treated the other girls, does that bother you?
Monica: Yeah, I have no idea. I was rooting for Kacie B. the whole way and I still am. I think she's the sweetest, most wonderful girl and Courtney picked on her, which made me very protective of her. I don't know. I don't really read any of the stuff that people are saying because I don't want to read my own, but Courtney's not very nice. I think she kind of deserves everything that's coming towards her. I can validate that she's somebody different around a group of women than she is around a man and she is really manipulative and really good at what she does. And obviously, that's the kind of girl that Ben's looking for, at least to this point. So, I don't know. I mean, I kind of think if they end up together, they deserve each other. Because if he's that shallow and she's that manipulative, then they totally work together, you know?
Why do you think Kacie B. is right for Ben? Since you said if Ben ends up choosing Courtney they'd deserve each other, are you kind of hoping Kacie won't end up with Ben because you're such a fan of hers?
Monica: Yeah, going through the process, I formed a very close relationship with Kacie B. Like I said, I see myself in her. She's nine years younger, she's the sweetest most adorable thing — what you see is what you get, honestly. And I really saw a very genuine, real side of Ben while filming all of this and I thought, "Hands down, choose Kacie B. Like, what am I doing here?" That's kind of why I was glad I left. I felt like I was going to date her boyfriend and I couldn't do that, you know? So, watching the show now though, I really hope he doesn't pick Kacie B. I really don't, because I don't think he's deserving of what a kind and beautiful person she is and I don't think it's fair. I think he'll break her heart. And to be honest with you, if he did pick her and they're in this wonderful state of a new relationship, and they're having to watch this awfulness, that's just detrimental to a relationship. And if it's Courtney, she obviously can just walk it off and say, "Winning!" You know? And won't care. So, that's where you kind of hear a little bitterness from me. I didn't see this side of Ben and it's very disappointing, because I do feel like he's genuine and a real person, but the choices he's making, it's certainly being a man and being manipulated. [What] Emily [O'Brien] was trying to do wasn't even for her own sake. It was, "Do you not see what's happening?" You're honestly trying not to see this and I'm giving you a heads up.
Courtney is apparently the girl Ben goes skinny dipping with during next week's episode [Episode 4]. What is your reaction to that?
Monica: I'm not surprised because after watching, like I said, Courtney was not shy about making it very obvious to the rest of us women that she felt better than us. I mean, she's kind of a weird duck. She really is. She had to take a four-hour nap before every event. So if Ben picks her, I hope he's aware of this. She takes long naps. I'm not surprised. I feel like Courtney's going to pull out any gun or any ammo necessary to make this work for her, because I do -- it is a competition in a way -- but when feelings get involved, and a lot of these girls did have feelings, I don't think it's a competition anymore. It just becomes about you and him and how this is going to be. I feel like everything Courtney does is to spite the women or it's almost kind of like wrenching that something to hurt everybody and not necessarily to get Ben. I mean, listen. I wouldn't go skinny dipping with him, and it's not because I'm prudish or not cool, it's just like what's the point? What for? I don't get it.
If Ben didn't have an issue with the girls sharing their concerns about Samantha Levey with him, then why do you think he got so hostile towards Emily O'Brien when she wanted to talk to him about Courtney? Do you think Ben was just very into Courtney and not so much into Samantha and that made all the difference?
Monica: Absolutely. I mean, like I said, I don't see a lot of this stuff. I'm watching it now with the public and when I see Ben's reaction with Courtney, I'm dead shocked. I knew he liked her, but just last week when they went on the group date, she came back with the rose and everybody was 100% percent convinced that Courtney was going to shoot herself in the foot because she doesn't do well with us and she's obviously a very great actress or a manipulative person with Ben. We all thought she manipulated him and he gave her the rose, which I thought was the worst decision ever! It really put everybody on edge. They were absolutely beside themselves in tears going, "If this is the kind of girl he wants, I don't know if I should even be here." And so, I absolutely think that it was his connection with her versus his connection that he didn't have with Samantha. So it was very easy to be kind of harsh with Samantha and send her home. And again, I mean, there's a lot more behind the scenes that goes on that not everybody sees. So, we don't know how lengthy that conversation was or maybe she was a little crude. Who knows, you know?
Which bachelorettes did you think would be good for Ben or consider frontrunners while you were on the show and did you think anyone in particular was there for the wrong reasons?
Monica: Like I said, I don't know if anybody was there necessarily for the wrong reasons. It just depends on what their reasons are for, you know? I think everybody was at least open to the idea of finding love, but possibly skeptical. For me, it came off as, "Hey, I'm the tough girl and I'm here for the wrong reasons." Especially me, I know America was looking at me going, "Why is this girl on the show? She has no interest in him?" I went completely open-minded. I think, for sure, Nicki [Sterling]. I think hands down, Nicki is a beautiful individual. She's got a heart of gold and I do think she's a little bit — she's very emotionally invested in this, obviously, as well as Kacie B and Emily. So I felt like at the point of when I was there, they would have been great matches for him. But those are probably the only three that I can pick out that for sure, I can actually see Ben with.
Read the full Q&A for more from Monica.
Source: Reality TV World