Season 8 Bachelorette Emily Maynard went on her first date with Ryan Bowers in Episode 2 this week and lots of heavy conversation about being a mother ensued – but, surprisingly, that discussion was had in the house of men Em left behind.

Some of the guys wondered whether or not Ryan would be meeting Emily’s daughter Ricki on this first date. Others guessed that the final two would be the only ones to meet Ricki, but single dad Doug Clerget shot that idea down, saying that his 12-year-old son wouldn’t meet someone he was dating so soon, so the chances of 6-year-old Ricki getting to know (another) strange man (see: Brad Womack) in front of cameras is slim to none.

So, when is a good time for Emily to introduce her special man (or men) to Ricki? Is it important for lil Ricki to meet her future fiance before he actually puts a ring on it? Or, given how quickly the show moves, does she need some time dating him just one-on-one after the show before she introduces her Chosen One to the lil one.

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