Credit: Gene Page/AMC Photo: Michonne Looks Depressed on The Walking Dead Season 4, Episode 11: “Claimed”

Over the past several months in The Walking Dead land, Michonne (Danai Gurira) and Carl Grimes (Chandler Riggs) have gotten very close, and they seem to have a unique understanding of one another that few others possess. Their relationship is a unique combo of parent-child and brother-sister, and we saw the intricacies of their bond firsthand during Season 4, Episode 11: “Claimed.”

During the episode Michonne made it her mission to get Carl to open up about Judith’s death (even though we know she’s very much alive) after she saw that he was having trouble coming to terms with everything. Throughout that process Michonne simultaneously opened up to Carl about her own struggles and heartbreak, revealing that she had a 3-year-old son named Andre who passed away.

On the post-“Claimed” episode of Talking Dead, one fan wondered if Michonne was a better mother figure for Carl than Lori had been. “Well now, yeah, because Lori’s not alive,” host Chris Hardwick said with a laugh.

Guest Michael Cudlitz (Abraham Ford) disagreed — noting, “No, your mom is your mom” — though he did agree that Michonne is a good person for Carl to have in his life: “I think she’d be an awesome friend, confidant, someone you can share stuff with and grow with, but your mom is your mom. Deal with it.”

Chris then agreed, saying that Michonne is more of a good big sister type, and fellow guest Mindy Kaling was also on the same page. “I agree with you,” she said. “I think she seems kind of like a frightening older sister. Michonne feels like she might not talk to you for two weeks because you pissed her off, but you want mom to always talk to, right?”

We’ll happily admit that we love seeing Carl and Michonne together, but she’s not as readily nurturing as Lori was. Do you see Michonne as a better mother figure for Carl, or was Lori a better fit?

Check out the Talking Dead clip below and tell us what you think!

The Walking Dead Season 4 airs Sundays at 9 p.m. ET on AMC.